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[I] Personally, I blame Orjan! [message #277153]

Sa, 03 Juni 2006 07:36

redtiger

That got your attention didn't it.

Actually this is just to relate an interesting experience I had this morning
and I will apologise to Orjan now.
<grovel> Sorry Orjan <\grovel>

Anyway, shortly before waking this morning I was having a dream. I can't
remember anything of the dream anymore but what happened as I started waking
up was most peculiar. The activities of the dream suddenly resolved into the
words on the page of a book. There was something incidental to the action
that had been taking place and this was suddenly represented by, of all
things, *a footnote*! And in true AFP style this footnote had it's own
footnote.
This, to me, is exceedingly peculiar. If it wasn't so funny I may find
it slightly disturbing. The fact that I was reading Ill in Anorankhmar
before bed probably has a lot to do with it. Which is why, personally, I
blame Orjan!

Anthony

--
I reject your reality and substitute my own!
- Adam Savage: Mythbusters

Re: [I] Personally, I blame Orjan! [message #277160 ]

Sa, 03 Juni 2006 08:40

dicconf

In article <44811fae$0$22176$5a62ac22 [at] per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>,
redtiger <redtigeriiSPAM [at] iinet.net.au> wrote:
>That got your attention didn't it.
>
>Actually this is just to relate an interesting experience I had this morning
>and I will apologise to Orjan now.
><grovel> Sorry Orjan <\grovel>
>
>Anyway, shortly before waking this morning I was having a dream. I can't
>remember anything of the dream anymore but what happened as I started waking
>up was most peculiar. The activities of the dream suddenly resolved into the
>words on the page of a book. There was something incidental to the action
>that had been taking place and this was suddenly represented by, of all
>things, *a footnote*! And in true AFP style this footnote had it's own
>footnote.
> This, to me, is exceedingly peculiar. If it wasn't so funny I may find
>it slightly disturbing. The fact that I was reading Ill in Anorankhmar
>before bed probably has a lot to do with it. Which is why, personally, I
>blame Orjan!

It seems perfectly reasonable to me. I have no such good excuse.
Mumbleyears ago I had a dream in which I was reading a book, saw the
letters and everything; when I woke up I could still feel it in my hand,
but when I looked there was nothing in my hand. I remembered enough of it
to write down about four pages verbatim. It didn't make a lot of sense
but I thought it was kind of a neat experience. No footnotes, though.
The last time I had a text-form dream, I was reading my email and couldn't
save it to diskette, which was frustrating. Somewhere along in the mumblety
years between, I had one dream in which the letters were not any recorded
language (one letter was shaped like a teddy-bear).

=Tamar

Re: [I] Personally, I blame Orjan! [message #277213 ]

Sa, 03 Juni 2006 11:21

Eric Jarvis

redtiger redtigeriiSPAM [at] iinet.net.au wrote in
<44811fae$0$22176$5a62ac22 [at] per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>:
> That got your attention didn't it.
>
> Actually this is just to relate an interesting experience I had this morning
> and I will apologise to Orjan now.
> <grovel> Sorry Orjan <\grovel>
>
> Anyway, shortly before waking this morning I was having a dream. I can't
> remember anything of the dream anymore but what happened as I started waking
> up was most peculiar. The activities of the dream suddenly resolved into the
> words on the page of a book. There was something incidental to the action
> that had been taking place and this was suddenly represented by, of all
> things, *a footnote*! And in true AFP style this footnote had it's own
> footnote.
> This, to me, is exceedingly peculiar. If it wasn't so funny I may find
> it slightly disturbing. The fact that I was reading Ill in Anorankhmar
> before bed probably has a lot to do with it. Which is why, personally, I
> blame Orjan!
>

Very odd.

All I can remember from my last dream is a desperate attempt to cut some
usable cheese from an old block of mouldy, and mostly rock hard, parmesan.
It appears I only remember my worst nightmares.

--
eric
www.ericjarvis.co.uk
"live fast, die only if strictly necessary"

Re: [I] Personally, I blame Orjan! [message #277233 ]

Sa, 03 Juni 2006 12:36

sphira9343

Eric Jarvis wrote:

> All I can remember from my last dream is a desperate attempt to cut some
> usable cheese from an old block of mouldy, and mostly rock hard, parmesan.
> It appears I only remember my worst nightmares.

Well, last night I was...a teacher or something, I think, taking a
whole load of students in a coach to their senior prom. We stopped at
a lake halfway there, so I could take the register again and make sure
everyone was there. For some reason, Iorek the armoured bear from the
Phillip Pullman books turned up at one point.
CCA

Re: [I] Personally, I blame Orjan! [message #277234 ]

Sa, 03 Juni 2006 12:37

Puck

Richard Eney wrote:
> It seems perfectly reasonable to me. I have no such good excuse.
> Mumbleyears ago I had a dream in which I was reading a book, saw the
> letters and everything; when I woke up I could still feel it in my
> hand, but when I looked there was nothing in my hand. I remembered
> enough of it to write down about four pages verbatim. It didn't make
> a lot of sense
> but I thought it was kind of a neat experience. No footnotes, though.
> The last time I had a text-form dream, I was reading my email and
> couldn't save it to diskette, which was frustrating. Somewhere along
> in the mumblety years between, I had one dream in which the letters
> were not any recorded language (one letter was shaped like a
> teddy-bear).

I enjoy writing, and every now and then I end up dreaming up bits to my
stories and then writing them down afterward. Not often, but it has happened
before. One of the most frustrating expiriences I have ever had took place
because of this. About a year ago I was working on-and-off on a story in my
free time. I had been about a week since I had added anything to it, and I
wasn't particularly thinking about it.

Then I had a dream that I *was* working on it. I was sort of aware that I
was dreaming, and knew that none of the stuff I thought I was writing really
made any sense. But at some point, amidst the random brain-bubbles I thought
up a joke.

A really funny joke.

In fact the joke caused me to wake up instantly and chuckle out loud. And it
was a *real* joke. I didn't just dream that I had come up with one, I really
had it in my head, and sat awake in bed for about 15 minutes thinking it
over and deciding that it would fit perfectly in my story. I assumed that
since I was now wide awake and alert, that I would be able to remember it in
the morning, unlike most dreams. So rather than get out of bed and write the
wretched thing down I went back to sleep.

No prizes for guessing what happened next. I forgot the bloody thing. Woke
up the next morning with no idea whatsoever what it had been, even though
I'd spent a quarter of an hour awake the previous night scrutinizing it,
editing it, etc.

Bloody infuriating.
--
Puck (onstage): I am that merry wanderer of the night!
Peaseblossom (in audience): "I am that merry wanderer of the night",
indeed! "I am that
giggling-dangerous-totally-bloody-psychotic-menace-to-life and limb,
more like." -Neil Gaiman

Re: [I] Personally, I blame Orjan! [message #277237 ]

Sa, 03 Juni 2006 12:54

Orjan Westin

redtiger wrote:
> That got your attention didn't it.
>
> Actually this is just to relate an interesting experience I had this
> morning and I will apologise to Orjan now.

There's no need to, I assure you, but I appreciate the gesture.

> <grovel> Sorry Orjan <\grovel>

Have you lost a contact lens or something? Do you want some help
looking for it?

> The activities of the dream
> suddenly resolved into the words on the page of a book. There was
> something incidental to the action that had been taking place and
> this was suddenly represented by, of all things, *a footnote*! And in
> true AFP style this footnote had it's own footnote.

You should try to play Neopets some time. I've been told that you can
get pets for your pets there, and pets for those. Petpetpets, they're
called.

> This, to me, is exceedingly peculiar. If it wasn't so funny I may
> find it slightly disturbing. The fact that I was reading Ill in
> Anorankhmar before bed probably has a lot to do with it. Which is
> why, personally, I blame Orjan!

Nah, blame Marco instead, he put as many in as I did, I think. And he
doesn't seem to be around at the moment. <eg>

Orjan
--
The Tale of Westala and Villtin
http://tale.cunobaros.com/
Fiction, Thoughts and Software
http://www.cunobaros.com/

Re: [I] Personally, I blame Orjan! [message #277248 ]

Sa, 03 Juni 2006 13:10

Nigel Stapley

Richard Eney wrote:

>I had one dream in which the letters were not any recorded
> language (one letter was shaped like a teddy-bear).

That just meant that your printer cable wasn't properly connected.

--
Regards

Nigel Stapley

www.judgemental.plus.com

<reply-to will bounce>

Re: [I] Personally, I blame Orjan! [message #277308 ]

Sa, 03 Juni 2006 18:17

exquisite witch peach

Orjan Westin wrote:
> redtiger wrote:
>
>>That got your attention didn't it.
>>
>>Actually this is just to relate an interesting experience I had this
>>morning and I will apologise to Orjan now.
>
>
> There's no need to, I assure you, but I appreciate the gesture.
>
>
>><grovel> Sorry Orjan <\grovel>
>
>
> Have you lost a contact lens or something? Do you want some help
> looking for it?
>
>
>>The activities of the dream
>>suddenly resolved into the words on the page of a book. There was
>>something incidental to the action that had been taking place and
>>this was suddenly represented by, of all things, *a footnote*! And in
>>true AFP style this footnote had it's own footnote.
>
>
> You should try to play Neopets some time. I've been told that you can
> get pets for your pets there, and pets for those. Petpetpets, they're
> called.

*groan* don't I know it. I have my own neopet, at my daughter's
insistence that we play this together.

Re: [I] Personally, I blame Orjan! [message #277670 ]

So, 04 Juni 2006 10:19

dicconf

In article <e5rop0$odl$1 [at] charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>,
Puck <Kormos.4 [at] osu.edu> wrote:
<snip>

>No prizes for guessing what happened next. I forgot the bloody thing. Woke
>up the next morning with no idea whatsoever what it had been, even though
>I'd spent a quarter of an hour awake the previous night scrutinizing it,
>editing it, etc.

There is the possibility that you didn't really wake up. I once had a
dream which woke me up and had some interesting interpretations, so I lay
in bed and figured out what it meant. Then I woke up - and remembered
that I had thought I woke up before, and laughed and went over the details
again so I'd remember them. Then I woke up... and said, Wow, and went
in the next room to tell my then partner about it - and then I woke up...
I think...

Another person I know likes to tape his dreams; he pushed the button on the
recorder kept handy by the bed, saw the little blinking red light that
indicated it was working, taped some notes on the dream, and went back
to sleep. In the morning, no tape... he had dreamed everything including
the little red light.

=Tamar

Re: [I] Personally, I blame Orjan! [message #277956 ]

Mo, 05 Juni 2006 01:05

Sofia

On Sat, 03 Jun 2006 06:37:09 -0400, Puck wrote:

> No prizes for guessing what happened next. I forgot the bloody thing. Woke
> up the next morning with no idea whatsoever what it had been, even though
> I'd spent a quarter of an hour awake the previous night scrutinizing it,
> editing it, etc.

Personally, I really wish I *didn't* remember some of my dreams, you see I
have an awful nose allergy, and when I go to sleep at night, I tend to
sound like one of those dirty old men, breathing heavily down the
telephone line, which has caused me to have this same recurrent dream,
about 3-4 times now (at least that's all I can remember).

I've woken up dreaming that I'm dying from suffocation, gasping for
air on my death-bed, and what's more, I sometimes still believed it was
really happening for about 5-10 mins after I was fully awake.

All the best

Sofie

--
Please visit my deviantART page: http://sofen.deviantart.com/

Re: [I] Personally, I blame Orjan! [message #278850 ]

Mo, 05 Juni 2006 13:52

SauN

Richard Eney a écrit :

> There is the possibility that you didn't really wake up. I once had a
> dream which woke me up and had some interesting interpretations, so I lay
> in bed and figured out what it meant. Then I woke up - and remembered
> that I had thought I woke up before, and laughed and went over the details
> again so I'd remember them. Then I woke up... and said, Wow, and went
> in the next room to tell my then partner about it - and then I woke up...
> I think...

This gives me the creeps. Really spooky...
--
SauN
http://sa-un.blogspot.com

Re: [I] Personally, I blame Orjan! [message #278851 ]

Mo, 05 Juni 2006 13:52

SauN

Re: [I] Personally, I blame Orjan! [message #278866 ]

Mo, 05 Juni 2006 14:35

Diane L

SauN" <"sachin[dot]brojmohun[at]free[dot]fr wrote:
> Richard Eney a écrit :
>
>> There is the possibility that you didn't really wake up. I once had
>> a dream which woke me up and had some interesting interpretations,
>> so I lay in bed and figured out what it meant. Then I woke up - and
>> remembered that I had thought I woke up before, and laughed and went
>> over the details again so I'd remember them. Then I woke up... and
>> said, Wow, and went in the next room to tell my then partner about it -
>> and then I woke
>> up... I think...
>
>
> This gives me the creeps. Really spooky...

The phenomenon is called false awakening. I used to have them quite
often, and if you get a few of them sort of 'stacked up' as Tamar
describes it can be rather disorientating. You spend most of the day
waiting to see it you'll wake up again. It makes dreaming you're a
butterfly seem like child's play.

Thinking about it, the best use of false awakening I remember is
in 'An American Werewolf in London', where the American guy
wakes up from a nightmare to find himself in hospital and the nurse
goes to open the curtain...

Diane L.

Re: [I] Personally, I blame Orjan! [message #278870 ]

Mo, 05 Juni 2006 14:51

Puck

Diane L wrote:
> The phenomenon is called false awakening. I used to have them quite
> often, and if you get a few of them sort of 'stacked up' as Tamar
> describes it can be rather disorientating. You spend most of the day
> waiting to see it you'll wake up again. It makes dreaming you're a
> butterfly seem like child's play.

Used to happen to me rather alot actually. In particular I dreamt that I had
woken and couldn't get back to sleep. When I *really* woke up (assuming I
ever did) I would be exhausted.

I also used to sleepwalk. Fun times. When I was little I would actually get
up, go outside, and wake up the next morning at the swingset in my backyard.
Haven't done anything like that in 11 years, thank God.

> Thinking about it, the best use of false awakening I remember is
> in 'An American Werewolf in London', where the American guy
> wakes up from a nightmare to find himself in hospital and the nurse
> goes to open the curtain...

I am reminded of the first issue of Sandman where Morpheus actually curses
his former captor to suffer that for the rest of his life. He wakes up
screaming, expresses relief that his nightmare is over, sees something
ghastly happen, wakes up screaming, etcetera. By the 9th graphic novel he
actually *had* woken up, which (if I have the continuity correct) means that
he suffered that non-stop for about 6 or 7 years.

--
Puck (onstage): I am that merry wanderer of the night!
Peaseblossom (in audience): "I am that merry wanderer of the night",
indeed! "I am that
giggling-dangerous-totally-bloody-psychotic-menace-to-life and limb,
more like." -Neil Gaiman

Re: [I] Personally, I blame Orjan! [message #278882 ]

Mo, 05 Juni 2006 15:17

SauN

Diane L a écrit :

> The phenomenon is called false awakening. I used to have them quite
> often, and if you get a few of them sort of 'stacked up' as Tamar
> describes it can be rather disorientating. You spend most of the day
> waiting to see it you'll wake up again. It makes dreaming you're a
> butterfly seem like child's play.
>
> Thinking about it, the best use of false awakening I remember is
> in 'An American Werewolf in London', where the American guy
> wakes up from a nightmare to find himself in hospital and the nurse
> goes to open the curtain...

I suffered from insomnia for years and years and when I slept it was
because I was exhausted. Sleeping when you are exhausted is weird
because you feel like you're dreaming but can't remember ever doing it.
I think that I also had some really scary nightmares also but can't
really remember those in particular.

Hey, "nightmare" has just triggered something. I remember having read a
book once called "Les structures anthropologiques de l'imaginaire" where
symbols were studied. "Night" "Mare"... A female horse in the night... etc.
--
SauN
http://sa-un.blogspot.com

Re: [I] Personally, I blame Orjan! [message #278894 ]

Mo, 05 Juni 2006 15:41

Torak

SauN wrote:
> Diane L a écrit :
>
>> The phenomenon is called false awakening. I used to have them quite
>> often, and if you get a few of them sort of 'stacked up' as Tamar
>> describes it can be rather disorientating. You spend most of the day
>> waiting to see it you'll wake up again. It makes dreaming you're a
>> butterfly seem like child's play.
>>
>> Thinking about it, the best use of false awakening I remember is
>> in 'An American Werewolf in London', where the American guy
>> wakes up from a nightmare to find himself in hospital and the nurse
>> goes to open the curtain...
>
>
>
> I suffered from insomnia for years and years and when I slept it was
> because I was exhausted. Sleeping when you are exhausted is weird
> because you feel like you're dreaming but can't remember ever doing it.
> I think that I also had some really scary nightmares also but can't
> really remember those in particular.

Yeah, BTDT. I know what you mean. Eight years and counting, hardly dream
at all. (yes, I *know*...)

Re: [I] Personally, I blame Orjan! [message #278907 ]

Mo, 05 Juni 2006 16:44

Arthur Hagen

SauN" <"sachin[dot]brojmohun[at]free[dot]fr
>
> Hey, "nightmare" has just triggered something. I remember having read
> a book once called "Les structures anthropologiques de l'imaginaire"
> where symbols were studied. "Night" "Mare"... A female horse in the
> night... etc.

The "mare" in "nightmare" has nothing to do with horses. This kind of mare
are the members of the Wild Hunt, or Mesnee d'Hellequin as you'd say in your
parts.

Regards,
--
*Art

Re: [I] Personally, I blame Orjan! [message #278913 ]

Mo, 05 Juni 2006 17:11

Torak

Arthur Hagen wrote:
> SauN" <"sachin[dot]brojmohun[at]free[dot]fr
>
>>
>> Hey, "nightmare" has just triggered something. I remember having read
>> a book once called "Les structures anthropologiques de l'imaginaire"
>> where symbols were studied. "Night" "Mare"... A female horse in the
>> night... etc.
>
>
> The "mare" in "nightmare" has nothing to do with horses. This kind of
> mare are the members of the Wild Hunt, or Mesnee d'Hellequin as you'd
> say in your parts.

We have a similar word in Swedish: "Mara", which is like a succubus
without the succ...

Re: [I] Personally, I blame Orjan! [message #278923 ]

Mo, 05 Juni 2006 17:39

Brenda

Torak said:

> We have a similar word in Swedish: "Mara", which is like a succubus
> without the succ...

i.e. "bus". Hold very tight, please...

--
Richard Heathfield
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29/7/1999
http://www.cpax.org.uk
email: rjh at above domain (but drop the www, obviously)

Re: [I] Personally, I blame Orjan! [message #278925 ]

Mo, 05 Juni 2006 17:43

Orjan Westin

Richard Heathfield wrote:
> Torak said:
>
>> We have a similar word in Swedish: "Mara", which is like a succubus
>> without the succ...
>
> i.e. "bus". Hold very tight, please...

Well, you can't blame for the buses. I've never come three times at
once.

(With apologies if this was obvious and too much "in-your-face". Oh,
bugger! That wasn't intentional.)

Orjan
--
The Tale of Westala and Villtin
http://tale.cunobaros.com/
Fiction, Thoughts and Software
http://www.cunobaros.com/

Re: [I] Personally, I blame Orjan! [message #278936 ]

Mo, 05 Juni 2006 18:09

Torak

Orjan Westin wrote:
> Richard Heathfield wrote:
>>Torak said:
>>
>>>We have a similar word in Swedish: "Mara", which is like a succubus
>>>without the succ...
>>
>>i.e. "bus". Hold very tight, please...
>
> Well, you can't blame for the buses. I've never come three times at
> once.
>
> (With apologies if this was obvious and too much "in-your-face". Oh,
> bugger! That wasn't intentional.)

(I thought mine was rather sneaky, too, in fact.)

Re: [I] Personally, I blame Orjan! [message #278940 ]

Mo, 05 Juni 2006 18:16

Arthur Hagen

Torak <perry_awm [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
> Arthur Hagen wrote:
>> SauN" <"sachin[dot]brojmohun[at]free[dot]fr
>>
>>>
>>> Hey, "nightmare" has just triggered something. I remember having
>>> read a book once called "Les structures anthropologiques de
>>> l'imaginaire" where symbols were studied. "Night" "Mare"... A
>>> female horse in the night... etc.
>>
>>
>> The "mare" in "nightmare" has nothing to do with horses. This kind
>> of mare are the members of the Wild Hunt, or Mesnee d'Hellequin as
>> you'd say in your parts.
>
> We have a similar word in Swedish: "Mara", which is like a succubus
> without the succ...

Cubus, you mean? Yes, that's truly evil.

--
*Art

Re: [I] Personally, I blame Orjan! [message #280021 ]

Di, 06 Juni 2006 05:30

Rocky Frisco

SauN wrote:

> Richard Eney a écrit :
>
>> There is the possibility that you didn't really wake up. I once had a
>> dream which woke me up and had some interesting interpretations, so I lay
>> in bed and figured out what it meant. Then I woke up - and remembered
>> that I had thought I woke up before, and laughed and went over the
>> details
>> again so I'd remember them. Then I woke up... and said, Wow, and went
>> in the next room to tell my then partner about it - and then I woke
>> up... I think...

> This gives me the creeps. Really spooky...

I once drove the truck around the same curve, past the same dog and same
sign about a dozen times before I started to remember the previous times
and that I was caught in a recurring sequence. I thought to where the
end snapped back to the beginning of the sequence, and as soon as I
sensed the disconnect, I turned my head to look out the other window
momentarily and when I looked back I had broken free and I continued on
down the road. I figure it was some sort of waking dream-state, since
dreams do weird things with time.

-Rocky
--
O'Toole's Corollary: Murphy was an optimist.

Re: [I] Personally, I blame Orjan! [message #280028 ]

Di, 06 Juni 2006 05:47

Rocky Frisco

Puck wrote:

> Diane L wrote:
>
>>The phenomenon is called false awakening. I used to have them quite
>>often, and if you get a few of them sort of 'stacked up' as Tamar
>>describes it can be rather disorientating. You spend most of the day
>>waiting to see it you'll wake up again. It makes dreaming you're a
>>butterfly seem like child's play.

> Used to happen to me rather alot actually. In particular I dreamt that I had
> woken and couldn't get back to sleep. When I *really* woke up (assuming I
> ever did) I would be exhausted.
>
> I also used to sleepwalk. Fun times. When I was little I would actually get
> up, go outside, and wake up the next morning at the swingset in my backyard.
> Haven't done anything like that in 11 years, thank God.

Had a wife once that did that. Not a good thing in a cowboy household
where there's a pistol on the nightstand. Only happened once, no
casualties, and I moved it from then on.

-Rocky
--
O'Toole's Corollary: Murphy was a lousy shot.

Re: [I] Sleepwalking (was) Personally, I blame Orjan! [message #280080 ]

Di, 06 Juni 2006 11:32

Brian Howlett

On 6 Jun, Rocky Frisco wrote:

> Puck wrote:

[snip]
>>
>> I also used to sleepwalk. Fun times. When I was little I would
>> actually get up, go outside, and wake up the next morning at the
>> swingset in my backyard. Haven't done anything like that in 11 years,
>> thank God.
>
> Had a wife once that did that. Not a good thing in a cowboy household
> where there's a pistol on the nightstand. Only happened once, no
> casualties, and I moved it from then on.
>
I once ate half a fruitcake in my sleep. It was destined to be our
Xmas cake, and was stored in a tin waiting to be iced.

I *hate* fruitcake...
--
Brian Howlett - Email to From: address deleted unseen
-----------------------------------------------------
Watch out...
...you might get what you're after...

Re: [I] Sleepwalking (was) Personally, I blame Orjan! [message #280089 ]

Di, 06 Juni 2006 12:14

Torak

Brian Howlett wrote:
> On 6 Jun, Rocky Frisco wrote:
>>Puck wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>>>I also used to sleepwalk. Fun times. When I was little I would
>>>actually get up, go outside, and wake up the next morning at the
>>>swingset in my backyard. Haven't done anything like that in 11 years,
>>>thank God.
>>
>>Had a wife once that did that. Not a good thing in a cowboy household
>>where there's a pistol on the nightstand. Only happened once, no
>>casualties, and I moved it from then on.
>
> I once ate half a fruitcake in my sleep. It was destined to be our
> Xmas cake, and was stored in a tin waiting to be iced.
>
> I *hate* fruitcake...

Then what are you doing on AFP? :-p

(For the record, I'm a big fan of Genoa cake)

Re: [I] Sleepwalking (was) Personally, I blame Orjan! [message #280095 ]

Di, 06 Juni 2006 12:54

Brenda

Brian Howlett changed the subject to:

Re: [I] Sleepwalking (was) Personally, I blame Orjan!

IRTA: Sheepwalking.

Is a lead de rigeur? Do you need to take a sheep-sceep, to clear up any
little "accidents" en route?

I don't have a pet sheep, so I am totally naive about such matters.

--
Richard Heathfield
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29/7/1999
http://www.cpax.org.uk
email: rjh at above domain (but drop the www, obviously)

Re: [I] Sleepwalking (was) Personally, I blame Orjan! [message #280107 ]

Di, 06 Juni 2006 14:48

SauN

Richard Heathfield a écrit :
> Brian Howlett changed the subject to:
>
> Re: [I] Sleepwalking (was) Personally, I blame Orjan!
>
> IRTA: Sheepwalking.
>
> Is a lead de rigeur? Do you need to take a sheep-sceep, to clear up any
> little "accidents" en route?
>
> I don't have a pet sheep, so I am totally naive about such matters.
>

Please don't talk about sheep... we'll soon be invaded by armies of
*pished* Nac Mac Feegles coming here to steal them. ROTFL
--
SauN
http://sa-un.blogspot.com

Re: [I] Sleepwalking (was) Personally, I blame Orjan! [message #280183 ]

Di, 06 Juni 2006 20:51

Loriba

In article <56f4aa324e.Brian [at] brianhowlett.me.uk>, news-
spamtrap [at] brianhowlett.me.uk wibbled thus...
> On 6 Jun, Rocky Frisco wrote:
>
> > Puck wrote:
>
> [snip]
> >>
> >> I also used to sleepwalk. Fun times. When I was little I would
> >> actually get up, go outside, and wake up the next morning at the
> >> swingset in my backyard. Haven't done anything like that in 11 years,
> >> thank God.
> >
> > Had a wife once that did that. Not a good thing in a cowboy household
> > where there's a pistol on the nightstand. Only happened once, no
> > casualties, and I moved it from then on.
> >
> I once ate half a fruitcake in my sleep. It was destined to be our
> Xmas cake, and was stored in a tin waiting to be iced.
>
> I *hate* fruitcake...
>

I have a friend who goes through bouts of sleep walking. Most mornings
she'd wake up to find that she'd made toast during the night, so she
started leaving the vacuum cleaner out in the hope that she'd 'take the
hint', never worked though.

She finally saw a doctor about it when she woke to find that her car
had moved during the night. Fortunately she'd been on a trip for work
the previous day and had recorded her mileage when she parked up, so
she could see that she'd driven less than a tenth of mile - she'd
probably just moved the car from one side of the driveway to the other.

Scary stuff though, especially as she always slept naked!

--
Loriba

I should be writing

Re: [I] Sleepwalking (was) Personally, I blame Orjan! [message #280244 ]

Mi, 07 Juni 2006 00:19

Steve Rogers

"Loriba" <loriba [at] tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.1eefdef032b714a9896a2 [at] News.Individual.NET...
> In article <56f4aa324e.Brian [at] brianhowlett.me.uk>, news-
> spamtrap [at] brianhowlett.me.uk wibbled thus...
>> On 6 Jun, Rocky Frisco wrote:
>>
>> > Puck wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>> >>
>> >> I also used to sleepwalk. Fun times. When I was little I would
>> >> actually get up, go outside, and wake up the next morning at the
>> >> swingset in my backyard. Haven't done anything like that in 11
>> >> years,
>> >> thank God.
>> >
>> > Had a wife once that did that. Not a good thing in a cowboy
>> > household
>> > where there's a pistol on the nightstand. Only happened once, no
>> > casualties, and I moved it from then on.
>> >
>> I once ate half a fruitcake in my sleep. It was destined to be our
>> Xmas cake, and was stored in a tin waiting to be iced.
>>
>> I *hate* fruitcake...
>>
>
> I have a friend who goes through bouts of sleep walking. Most
> mornings
> she'd wake up to find that she'd made toast during the night, so she
> started leaving the vacuum cleaner out in the hope that she'd 'take
> the
> hint', never worked though.
>
> She finally saw a doctor about it when she woke to find that her car
> had moved during the night. Fortunately she'd been on a trip for work
> the previous day and had recorded her mileage when she parked up, so
> she could see that she'd driven less than a tenth of mile - she'd
> probably just moved the car from one side of the driveway to the
> other.
>
> Scary stuff though, especially as she always slept naked!
>

My wife sleepwalked when she first came to the UK - her first time away
from home, flying, pregnant, not knowing anyone else here, etc - and one
day when I was coming home up the M25 and it was snowing I got a phone
call from her asking me to come find her, when I asked her where she was
the answer I got was in a field and there's Llamas and sheep and I'm
frozen. Got her to walk to the edge of the field to a road and told
her to look out for me. It seems that she got dressed but had put on a
thin jacket rather than her winter weight one, picked up the spare
mobile phone that I'd given her and her door key, walked out the house
locking the door fully behind her, through the estate we live on and
over one field, across a busy country type road (a very nasty one at
that) and half way across another field before laying down, she woke up
when snow started falling on to her face. Funny thing is she
sleepwalked once more, just getting up from bed in the night and then
getting back into bed, before stopping for good. So we think it was a
stress related thing in her case.

I knew a guy when I was in trade training in the RAF that sleepwalked -
he shared a 4 man room with me for a while on the first floor of the
barrack block, one night he "walked" out the window and came to on the
grass outside the barrack block without a mark on him and nothing to
show that he'd even fallen that far, how he missed getting scratched up
by the branches of the tree outside the window I'll never know.
Needless to say he was moved to a room on the ground floor after that.

Steve

Re: [I] Sleepwalking (was) Personally, I blame Orjan! [message #280286 ]

Mi, 07 Juni 2006 02:33

redtiger

"Loriba" <loriba [at] tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.1eefdef032b714a9896a2 [at] News.Individual.NET...
<snip>

> She finally saw a doctor about it when she woke to find that her car
> had moved during the night. Fortunately she'd been on a trip for work
> the previous day and had recorded her mileage when she parked up, so
> she could see that she'd driven less than a tenth of mile - she'd
> probably just moved the car from one side of the driveway to the other.
>
> Scary stuff though, especially as she always slept naked!
>

My boss was saying yesterday that he sleeps naked (not a nice thought to
start with). He is also in the volunteer fire brigade and tends to take his
role a little too seriously some times. On more than one occasion he has
received a page in the middle of the night, gotten his car keys and driven
straight to the fire station,*stark naked*! One night it was raining and as
he ran through the door of the station he slipped on the concrete and slid
right into the fire truck ending up flat on his back, dripping wet and nude.
That might almost have been worth seeing.
My boss is.... strange at times.

Anthony

--
I reject your reality and substitute my own!
- Adam Savage: Mythbusters

Re: [I] Personally, I blame Orjan! [message #280527 ]

Mi, 07 Juni 2006 22:13

Loriba

In article <44842efd$0$10982$626a54ce [at] news.free.fr>, SauN <"sachin[dot]
brojmohun[at]free[dot]fr"> wibbled thus...
>
> I suffered from insomnia for years and years and when I slept it was
> because I was exhausted. Sleeping when you are exhausted is weird
> because you feel like you're dreaming but can't remember ever doing it.
> I think that I also had some really scary nightmares also but can't
> really remember those in particular.
>

I normally sleep very well and rarely remember dreams. The last
nightmare I remember happened a couple of months ago when I dreamt I
was marrying David Tennant.

<shudder>

--
Loriba

I should be writing

Re: [I] Personally, I blame Orjan! [message #280629 ]

Do, 08 Juni 2006 09:27

geminii

On Wed, 7 Jun 2006 21:13:31 +0100, Loriba <loriba [at] tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

>I normally sleep very well and rarely remember dreams. The last
>nightmare I remember happened a couple of months ago when I dreamt I
>was marrying David Tennant.

Woo, free TARDIS?

Re: [I] Personally, I blame Orjan! [message #280959 ]

Fr, 09 Juni 2006 04:38

Flesh-eating Dragon

Diane L wrote:

> The phenomenon is called false awakening. I used to have them quite
> often,

Has anyone ever told you that you're weird?

I once (as a child) hypothesised that asking whether you can remember
the first thing that happened that morning might be a better test of
whether you're dreaming than the old nonsense about pinching yourself.

Wouldn't have worked for you, huh?

Adrian.

Re: [I] Sleepwalking (was) Personally, I blame Orjan! [message #280966 ]

Fr, 09 Juni 2006 05:26

Flesh-eating Dragon

redtiger wrote:

> My boss was saying yesterday that he sleeps naked

Well, so do I.

But not last night. It was *COLD!*

Adrian.

Re: [I] Personally, I blame Orjan! [message #280989 ]

Fr, 09 Juni 2006 10:15

Diane L

8'FED wrote:
> Diane L wrote:
>
>> The phenomenon is called false awakening. I used to have them quite
>> often,
>
> Has anyone ever told you that you're weird?

Once or twice. I just carried on playing the ukulele while dressed as
a rabbit and riding a unicycle. What do they know?

>
> I once (as a child) hypothesised that asking whether you can remember
> the first thing that happened that morning might be a better test of
> whether you're dreaming than the old nonsense about pinching yourself.
>
> Wouldn't have worked for you, huh?

<fx> Tries to remember the first thing that happened this morning.
Starts to worry.</fx>

Diane L.

Re: [I] Personally, I blame Orjan! [message #281021 ]

Fr, 09 Juni 2006 11:54

Hendrik Schober

Diane L <dianenews [at] lindquist.plus.com> wrote:
> 8'FED wrote:
> [...]
>> I once (as a child) hypothesised that asking whether you can remember
>> the first thing that happened that morning might be a better test of
>> whether you're dreaming than the old nonsense about pinching yourself.
>>
>> Wouldn't have worked for you, huh?
>
> <fx> Tries to remember the first thing that happened this morning.
> Starts to worry.</fx>

That's an easy one for me: Our little one woke us up.
he does this every morning (although not at 5am), so
I always know for sure.
OTOH, he makes us sleep-walking at nights ATM, when
he sits up at 1am and screams for his comforter at
the top of his lungs. <sigh>

Schobi

--
SpamTrap [at] gmx.de is never read
I'm Schobi at suespammers dot org

"The sarcasm is mightier than the sword."
Eric Jarvis

Re: [I] Personally, I blame Orjan! [message #281172 ]

Fr, 09 Juni 2006 22:49

alec

In article <e6bgpp$tp7$1 [at] murphy.mediascape.de>, SpamTrap [at] gmx.de says...

> That's an easy one for me: Our little one woke us up.
> he does this every morning (although not at 5am), so
> I always know for sure.
> OTOH, he makes us sleep-walking at nights ATM, when
> he sits up at 1am and screams for his comforter at
> the top of his lungs. <sigh>

What I found interesting was the rapidity with which my chiildren
switched from up at 6am, want breakfast, want play, want Mummy and Daddy
to stay in bed, can't I take the day off, leave me alone, I'm ill as
soon as formal school started (rising 5 in the UK). It took about 2
weeks to make a transition which has not reversed by age 21.

Re: [I] Personally, I blame Orjan! [message #281268 ]

Sa, 10 Juni 2006 11:13

Lister

On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 21:49:04 +0100, Alec Cawley <alec [at] spamspam.co.uk>
wrote:

>
>What I found interesting was the rapidity with which my chiildren
>switched from up at 6am, want breakfast, want play, want Mummy and Daddy
>to stay in bed, can't I take the day off, leave me alone, I'm ill as
>soon as formal school started (rising 5 in the UK). It took about 2
>weeks to make a transition which has not reversed by age 21.

Speaking as someone the same age as your kids, I can understand that

:)

Re: [I] Personally, I blame Orjan! [message #281309 ]

Sa, 10 Juni 2006 13:20

Hendrik Schober

Alec Cawley <alec [at] spamspam.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <e6bgpp$tp7$1 [at] murphy.mediascape.de>, SpamTrap [at] gmx.de says...
>
> > That's an easy one for me: Our little one woke us up.
> > he does this every morning (although not at 5am), so
> > I always know for sure.
> > OTOH, he makes us sleep-walking at nights ATM, when
> > he sits up at 1am and screams for his comforter at
> > the top of his lungs. <sigh>
>
> What I found interesting was the rapidity with which my chiildren
> switched from up at 6am, want breakfast, want play, want Mummy and Daddy
> to stay in bed, can't I take the day off, leave me alone, I'm ill as
> soon as formal school started (rising 5 in the UK). It took about 2
> weeks to make a transition which has not reversed by age 21.

Mine (9 and 6) are actually mostly upset if they can't
go to school.

Schobi

--
SpamTrap [at] gmx.de is never read
I'm Schobi at suespammers dot org

"The sarcasm is mightier than the sword."
Eric Jarvis

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